tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10703390.post5266996996574217633..comments2023-07-20T13:08:25.645-07:00Comments on Hastings on nonviolence: Leadership and a collective culture: How America polices against movements, even from withinTom H. Hastingshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17098260278363929190noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10703390.post-89733347537757645642015-01-04T13:50:08.123-08:002015-01-04T13:50:08.123-08:00Sorry, not sure if this went through the first tim...Sorry, not sure if this went through the first time...<br /><br />Your article was great, and has generated an interesting discussion between myself and another person who generally advocates for diversity of tactics. He has one question I couldn't answer: "I would love to see examples of provocateurs actively seriously breaking the law as opposed to just advocating it in order to make arrests on more serious charges." Any leads?Jake Donaldsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04254146795194567799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10703390.post-50088256983787771422014-12-27T08:49:37.246-08:002014-12-27T08:49:37.246-08:00Thank you, Scott, for your kind words. I was hopin...Thank you, Scott, for your kind words. I was hoping to prove you incorrect with regard to Black Lives Matter, but their blog includes the justification for violent revolution with these words from one of their spokespeople: "under conditions of white supremacist terror, revolutionary violence can be an expression of Christian love." http://blacklivesmatter.com/strange-fruit-revolutionary-violence-and-a-love-on-fire/<br />I get that this can be justified under Just War doctrine, and I also know that everyone who takes up arms against the US will be crushed, at least those within the US. This struggle can either be cathartic and bloody or disciplined and victorious, but not both. I am fearful for black youth who are persuaded to take up violence; nonviolence is risky enough, but at least it can win.Tom H. Hastingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17098260278363929190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10703390.post-74866026786531241522014-12-27T08:08:55.530-08:002014-12-27T08:08:55.530-08:00There are many organizations that are supporting t...There are many organizations that are supporting the effort to limit police brutality, but I haven't seen any organizations that make this explicit point yet prominently on their web site. Nor did we hear public official and civil rights leaders' explicit condemnations of the very common incitement to violence in street protests before the police deaths. And we're far from getting this kind of explicit focus on the challenging stance of nonviolence as the key to getting efficient activism to happen, from a practical and spiritual standpoint. <br /><br />Thank you for the clarity and rare internal processing cycles spent on this subject.Scott Wagnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04466053976501617269noreply@blogger.com